to receive notification! I am reluctant to use a PVA since it clashes with my old school "gluing must be hard" mindset. Industry News 335 Bedell Road I test with samples I put in the press for a couple of minutes. CAD Forum My first spreader had 1/16" V notches almost 1/4" on center and that was too much for veneering w/ PVA. } and at their own risk. There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". Contact WOODWEB for more information on initiating a survey. Index of industrial woodworking related digital videos on the web WOODWEB suggests that businesses include an appropriately crafted signature in order to identify their company. ... They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. ... Responses that initiate or support inappropriate and off-topic discussion of general politics detract from the professional woodworking focus of WOODWEB, and will be removed. While, theoretically, it provided an almost acceptable 7.5 mill film, actual film thickness is usually (unless you really slant the spreader) higher than the square root of the calculated notch area. We use foam rollers - small o.d. Signatures should be limited to 4-6 lines, and may contain information that identifies the type of business you're in, your URL and email address (return to top). Discussions covering issues faced be commercial drying operations that process at least 750,000 bd. Discussions covering issues faced be commercial drying operations that process at least 750,000 bd. CNC Forum I'd like to have both at hand. Project: V4™ Cleaning up stray glue is easy; simply wipe away wet glue with water. X-Press is designed for vacuum press veneering. Unibond 800 or PPR (powdered plastic resin) are the best for veneering in my opinion. Whatever it is, they have worked well for me (even w/ unfilled PVA and porous quarter grain veneer). 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Readers should undertake the use Website: http://www.veneersystems.com Titebond II Premium Weather proof bond suitable for wood to wood bond where moisture is present. 2/17       #17: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! (return to form) Unibond 800 Laminating Glue - Gallon. Discussing all aspects of installation issues encountered by cabinet and millwork installers. Commercial Kiln Drying Forum A shelf stable, one part (pre-catalysed) cross-linking PVA adhesive. This seems to hold some better. IIRC 5-7 mils is recommended. If I did the math right, the wet film thickness of a 1/16" V notch spreader is over 30 mils. Lumber Exchange We have been selling PPR (powdered plastic resin) glue for 20+ years and sell 1 gal., 5 gal, 100lb and 300lb drums. I just looked at another veneer glue failure on another table top today, and this project was the last time we used Uni-Bond 800. One notable exception is in applying commercial edge-banding to plywood edges. Correction to my earlier post: actual film thickness is less than calculations based on spreader notch area. A forum for the discussion of business topics: from sales and marketing to dealing with difficult customers. If the numbers I'm getting are right, and my scale is accurate (grams per square meter), the spread is only a hair over 4 mils. Sawing and Drying Forum Dave (return to form) When posting listings in these areas, review the posting instructions carefully. Instead of requiring a special glue applicator or a measuring device, this adhesive spreads perfectly with a simple glue roller. A worldwide buy/sell exchange for lumber and wood products To report a problem, send an e-mail to our Webmaster Your Website Armed with just the data below, I think you'll find that X-Press veneer glue does indeed offer a better bond. Repeated Forum Abuse: and at their own risk. 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I did two tests to calculate film thickness using grams of glue used per square meter. Compra Titebond Cold Press for Veneer 907, 2 gram. 2/12       #15: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. For the Urea Glue you need to use the grey rubber roller. Auctions, Sales and Special Offers Thread Related Link and Image Guidelines I'd like to have both at hand. My first spreader had 1/16" V notches almost 1/4" on center and that was too much for veneering w/ PVA. Instructions / MSDS. Forum participants will be able to contact you using a contact link (included with your post) that is substituted for your actual address. It has been WOODWEB's experience that substantive responses are held in higher regard by our readers (return to top). I need someone else to suggest a size. "Cross posting" is not permitted. Not thorough enough mixing of the powder apparently. 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The science and art of forest cultivation and timber management, planting, surveying, tree diseases, silviculture and timber harvesting Be sure to review our Frequently Asked Questions page. Cold press adhesives cure by evaporation. Vacuum Press Gallery 2, What Makes Better Bond™ X-Press Veneer Glue Better. Advertising:   The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not an advertising venue. Notched spreaders can be found at most hardware stores in the flooring department. E-Mail Address: Chris No part of this publication may be reproduced in Chris Your e-mail address will not be publicly viewable. Whatever it is, they have worked well for me (even w/ unfilled PVA and porous quarter grain veneer). ... An open ended question (like the one above) invites responses that may read as sales pitches. Vacuum Clamping Pedal Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only. There are many different sizes and shapes (V-notch, square-notch). My first spreader had 1/16" V notches almost 1/4" on center and that was too much for veneering w/ PVA. Not that I'm a fan of the stuff, but the glue starting giving us problems then - with adhesion. 2/6       #3: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! John - We have the mixing down - lots of work and time to get rid of all those little lumps, and we have the temp easily at 70 or over (sweatbands in place), so it is coverage that I feel lost with. E-Mail us and let us know what you think. Date of your Birth: Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only. Fillers can be added which increase thickness but can reduce bond strength. Quick View. Excel 1™ But that’s not a problem with Titebond III. This puts on the perfect amount glue. Granted we are working with some really coarse 1/16" White Oak and cross bands, but we used almost a gallon of glue to do 4 door stiles - 90 s/f. Be sure to enter your email address correctly. Video Library At least with unfilled PVA's, there is a fine line between 100% veneer coverage and porous quarter grain bleed through. Model 5176 Titebond - Cold Press Veneer Glue, Gallon. Buy and Sell Exchanges Add to Cart. ... (return to form) Member "Keep Me Posted" button below. Refer a Friend || Read For paper backed veneers I use a solvent based contact cement.. Late-breaking news from all sectors of the wood industry document.cookie = encodeURIComponent('thumbs_755548') + "=" + encodeURIComponent('Y') + expires + "; path=/"; I'm getting ready to try Unibond 800 based on all it's praises received on the site. A vacuum bag works good, or just a substrate with weight. Our original findings held. Because of this, I had to do 6 different pressings to complete the project. Dave (return to form) Thread Related Links posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should point to locations that provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. Excessive forum participation by an individual upsets the balance of a healthy forum atmosphere. Any suggestions on where to find the notched spreaders and what are the dimensions of the spreaders? To report a problem, send an e-mail to our Webmaster What is safe for one woodworker under certain conditions may not be safe for others in different circumstances. That stuff can get really slippery. To obtain optimal results in using CAD Forum I haven't seen any notched spreaders small enough and haven't tried filling/machining down the smallest ones. Discussing topics related to adhesives within the woodworking industry The ideal solid content is one that minimizes overpenetration and maximizes bond strength. E-Mail Address Discussing CNC (computer numerically controlled) woodworking equipment, software, and automated product manufacturing. While numbers are interesting, doing test samples is the only way to get a minimal glue line with 100% veneer coverage and no/minimal bleed. A well-crafted signature is an appropriate way to advertise your services that will not offend potential customers. Finishing issues for the production environment Even with my relatively low notch area, I can get unacceptable bleed through if I'm not careful about cleaning up/removing excess glue - pressure and angle can make a big difference. Business and Management Forum E-Mail Address: Posts with the intent of soliciting answers to surveys are not appropriate. $('.thumbsupimg').hide(); There is no mixing and has a long set time, similar to titebond III just with less time rush to get everything in place. Why all the hoopla about the rigid glues? Personal or business website links must point to the author's website. Be sure to review our Frequently Asked Questions page. Honestly Titebond cold press veneer glue works great. Your Name My concern with using a foam roller would be absorption of the glue. I can't seem to find any urea glue call "Pro-Bond" while searching. What is safe for one woodworker under certain conditions may not be safe With its very fast setting rate, viscosity stability and high percentage solids, Titebond Premium II can also be used for a variety of assembly gluing applications. Professional woodworkers display and describe their shop facilities, products and equipment Subject Why all the hoopla about the rigid glues? Any suggestions on where to find the notched spreaders and what are the dimensions of the spreaders? Powdered plastic resin John - We have the mixing down - lots of work and time to get rid of all those little lumps, and we have the temp easily at 70 or over (sweatbands in place), so it is coverage that I feel lost with. WOODWEB suggests that companies responding to such a question provide detailed and substantive replies rather than responses that read as a one-sided product promotion. 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Dust Collection, Safety and Plant Operation Forum Responses should relate to the original question. About Veneer I will post results tomorrow. To keep the test equal, we heated the Titebond glue and performed the same test. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links or images it deems inappropriate. A Thread Related Link that directs visitors to an area with inappropriate content will be removed. For paper backed veneers I use a solvent based contact. The V notches are approximately 1mm (1+ edge, 1- legs) on 3mm centers. The term "wetting" is often used to describe the ability of the adhesive to penetrate the porous surface of the veneer and the substrate. type, but we are having to mix and roll out almost 3 times as much glue as they suggest. John Van Brussel Unibond 800 or PPR (powdered plastic resin) are the best for veneering in my opinion. I've worked exhaustively to make these glues the most user-friendly, reliable, and affordable adhesives available. ... Subject : RE: Unibond 800 vs Titebond Posted : 2008-07-17 8:27 AM Post #34712 - In reply to #34711. expires = "; expires=" + date.toGMTString(); If its a flat surface, in my experience, Tight bond 2 is just fine. A forum for the discussion of business topics: from sales and marketing to dealing with difficult customers. Advertising:   The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not an advertising venue. } After months of re-formulating and tweaking these adhesives, I believe you will find the Better Bond adhesives the absolute best. If any little clumps remained they needed to be broken up and mixed in again. Richard Oedel replies: Use a different glue, and a blocking additive. Even so, thickness can vary depending angle and pressure. The info I got from them was to mix with a power mixer let it sit for 5-10 min. Amazon's Choice for "veneer glue" Gorilla GG5044400 Glue, Natural Wood Colour, 118ml. Titebond cold press works OK, if you keep pressure while setting. - Unibond 800, which is a two-part glue (not to be confused with epoxy) - Ultra-CAT PPR (powdered resin glue) - TiteBond Cold Press glue (same as recommended by Wally). I've been very happy with it's performance on my box I'm Vacuum Bagging Spedizione Gratuita disponibile per membri Prime su oltre un milione di prodotti. Under £15; £15 - £50; ... Franklin 5175 Titebond Cold Press Veneer Glue, 1 qt by Titebond. return false; Employment opportunities and services within the woodworking industry The adhesive polymers in Better Bond X-Press veneer glue will remain stable if the adhesive is frozen. Readers should undertake the use 1/16" notched trowel. Whatever it is, they have worked well for me (even w/ unfilled PVA and porous quarter grain veneer). Enter the correct numbers into the field below: A personal "member history" that displays your posts at WOODWEB, Your forms at WOODWEB will be filled in automatically. Second, regarding glue, I am one of those people ardently opposed to contact cement for veneer. I then file it down to a height of 1/32". Buy & Sell Exchanges | Forums | Galleries | Other Resources | Site Map 2/11       #13: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Finishing issues for the production environment 2/10       #9: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Hobbyist and homeowner woodworking questions are inappropriate. Return to top of page The science and art of forest cultivation and timber management, planting, surveying, tree diseases, silviculture and timber harvesting Also has a longer shelf life. Intentionally using another persons name is prohibited, and posts of this nature will be removed at WOODWEB's discretion. (return to top) $('.thumbsupimg').css('cursor','pointer'); Ed A well-crafted signature is an appropriate way to advertise your services that will not offend potential customers. They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. Discussing topics related to maintaining a safe and productive working environment. Review WOODWEB's Copyright Policy. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links it deems inappropriate. WOODnetWORK Even with my relatively low notch area, I can get unacceptable bleed through if I'm not careful about cleaning up/removing excess glue - pressure and angle can make a big difference. It looks as if there are two solutions ready to use: The spreaders as suggested by John V B and the notched spreaders for smaller jobs. David R Sochar This also includes the venting of unsubstantiated opinions. Your Name David R Sochar Posts with the intent of soliciting answers to surveys are not appropriate. Discussing topics related to primary processing and drying of lumber Even so, thickness can vary depending angle and pressure. Adhesives Forum Video Files: acceptable video formats are: .MOV .AVI .WMV .MPEG .MPG .FLV .MP4 (Image Upload Tips)   If you encounter any difficulty when uploading video files, E-mail WOODWEB for assistance. and then mix again with a power mixer. View higher quality, full size image (1600 X 1200) 2/11       #14: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links or images it deems inappropriate. This led to a time complication...I had to press one side at a time in the bag. It is what makes an adhesive strong and durable. type, but we are having to mix and roll out almost 3 times as much glue as they suggest. This puts on the perfect amount glue. A vacuum bag exerts one atmosphere of pressure, or 15 psi, and you don’t have all those heavy waxed cauls plus beams and clamps to deal with. 2/10       #10: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! any manner without permission of the Editor. The only thing we have sort of a problem with is how fast the substance thickens up. var date = new Date(); Yes, I meant "Pro-Glue", but we are now using CP's cp-0503 pre-catalyzed powdered urea resin. Not that I'm a fan of the stuff, but the glue starting giving us problems then - with adhesion. Value Added Wood Products Forum Words, pictures, or cartoons which expose a person or organization to public hatred, shame, disgrace, or ridicule, or induce an ill opinion of a person or organization, are libelous. Forum Posting Form Guidelines 2/7       #6: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Private response requests are appropriate at WOODWEB's Exchanges and Job Opportunities and Services. On the website, it notes that "although not as high a performer as our two part Unibond 800, Unibond One is an excellent veneering and laminating adhesive when the extreme rigidity and performance of a two part urea resin glue is not required." TB2 is one of them, not as hard as unibond but good enough for most applications. Our last couple gallons of Unibond only lasts about 4 months in a cool shop. Depending on what you are trying to do, you might try Unibond 800, a two part adhesive which has a really hard glue-line, and a long open time to allow you to work with it. Be sure to review our Frequently Asked Questions page. gtag('js', new Date()); Titebond Radon Sealant Titebond Roof Sealants Titebond 100% Silicone Titebond UA 920 WeatherMaster ULTIMATE MP WeatherMaster X-TREME Foams Woodworking Glues Titebond Accessories Titebond Cold Press Glues Galleries Participants should undertake the use of machinery, materials and methods discussed at WOODWEB's Message Boards after considerate evaluation, and at their own risk. Thread Related File Uploads Want to understand why solid content tells you nothing about bond strength and how it is often over-estimated for marketing purposes? No part of this publication may be reproduced in Glue spreaders Because of its relatively long open time (45 minutes @ 70°F), rigid glue line, and gap filling properties (up to 0.02"), it is ideal for veneering, bent wood laminations or any vacuum pressing application. It has minimal bleed thru, and has a reasonable open time. While numbers are interesting, doing test samples is the only way to get a minimal glue line with 100% veneer coverage and no/minimal bleed. We use foam rollers - small o.d. Dave To receive email notification of additions to this forum thread,enter your name and email address, and then click the Dust Collection, Safety and Plant Operation Forum WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages it deems inappropriate. Subject The staff of WOODWEB assume no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or outcome of any posting transmitted at WOODWEB's Message Boards. While numbers are interesting, doing test samples is the only way to get a minimal glue line with 100% veneer coverage and no/minimal bleed. 2/11       #12: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Flattening Veneers Copyright © 1996-2021 - WOODWEB ® Inc. David, Dave Your e-mail address will not be publicly viewable. Participants are encouraged to use their real name when posting. Shop Gallery Read on. Shedding light on the all-too-often shadowy world of CAD. Shopbuilt Equipment Gallery Libel:   Posts which defame an individual or organization, or employ a tone which can be viewed as malicious in nature. Project Gallery Buy and Sell Exchanges Intentionally using another persons name is prohibited, and posts of this nature will be removed at WOODWEB's discretion. Vacuum Clamp Matrix var date = new Date(); With my 1mm V notch on 3mm center spreader the calculated film thickness is 6.6 mils (.0394 x .0394 = .001552, / 4 = .000388, square root = .0197, / 3 = .0066). Do you mean "Pro-Glue" instead of "Pro-Bond"? But, on top of that, the formula is surprisingly great for radio frequency (R-F) and hot press gluing systems. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links it deems inappropriate. Imagine a plate of pancakes. Be sure to enter your email address correctly. 1/16" notched trowel. Value Added Wood Products Forum Now I'm reading more and more about PVA with veneer(?!?). 2/7       #7: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! I use notched spreaders because it gives me a nice consistent spread. if($('.thumbcount').html() != "1") { ... Professional Finishing Forum A vacuum bag exerts one atmosphere of pressure, or 15 psi, and you don’t have all those heavy waxed cauls plus beams and clamps to deal with. Discussing 32mm and face frame cabinet construction including fabrication, casegoods design, and installation. On the other hand any glue rate for RF curing will give a hard glue line. for others in different circumstances. 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